Comments on Devon Crosby-Helms: Meat, its what's for dinner

Great post, Devon, and great comments coming out o...

2010-03-15T10:35:19.648-07:00

Great post, Devon, and great comments coming out of the peanut gallery. I'd like to second the recommendation to check out paleonu.com - this is hands down my favorite academic nutrition blog.

Hooray for (healthy, sustainable, local) meat!

Only 1-2 servings a week, wow. I eat about 4-5 se...

2010-02-26T17:34:10.483-08:00

Only 1-2 servings a week, wow. I eat about 4-5 servings of fish or poultry a day, about 2-3 oz at each meal. :) I like red meat I just don't eat it because I like the lean element of the other. However, I would agree with you totally. I think I will add a serving of red a couple of times a week. Thanks

Rooster- I only eat 1-2 servings per week of ANY m...

2010-02-26T16:11:57.481-08:00

Rooster-
I only eat 1-2 servings per week of ANY meat. Poultry, fish, red meat. I love fish and probably could eat it every day (I did when we were in Hawaii!)- ha maybe I should!

I think red meat is important especially with our needs as female runners. I think red meat got a bad rep, and you can include it in a healthful and beneficial way.

I am not a huge dairy person, except for butter. C...

2010-02-26T15:41:45.259-08:00

I am not a huge dairy person, except for butter. Cheese is an occasional tasty treat.

I have read a lot of paleo research and diet models. I definitely differ in that I believe in fruits and vegetables first and foremost (along with nuts, seeds and healthy fats), then meat. I am never going to be a heavy eater of meat. Thanks for the links, i will check them out.

Hopefully I will find a balance that gives me energy, speed and endurance!

Devon how much poultry and fish do you eat. I eat ...

2010-02-26T15:40:25.876-08:00

Devon how much poultry and fish do you eat. I eat a diet of mostly fish for my protein, some poultry but wonder if I should add red meats? Your thoughts?

Meat may have a better nutrient profile for traini...

2010-02-26T14:53:00.292-08:00

Meat may have a better nutrient profile for training than dairy products, and is less insulinogenic than milk, so maybe it helps more with reaching race weight.

The paleo community is advocating a diet similar to yours- mainly whole foods, meats plus veggies, preferably grass fed meat to get the better omega-3 to -6 ratio. They vary in the amount of dairy/grains/legumes avoidance, but it seems pretty similar to your usual diet. I've read some anecdotal stories of amazing improvements in body composition and performance (as well as health)from adherents. Unfortunately, many of them believe endurance exercise is somehow nonpaleo, that our ancestors only sprinted and lifted heavy objects for short periods of time each day, as if our ancestors never ran to hunt or just for fun. They may be coming around though (even Mark Sisson concedes you can train for endurance without chugging carbohydrates all day- he used to be an Olympic marathoner and triathlete, but got very beat up and decided the mode of exercise was at fault and not his way of eating). Anyway, if you're not following any of the blogs, you might stop in to see what Robb Wolf has to say (robbwolf.com) or check out this post http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2009/12/25/panu-eating-and-high-intensity-training.html . I'd be interested in your take on their advice.

Ultimately, though the only thing that matters is what works for you. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

Cynthia

Hey Devon, interesting content in your post. It i...

2010-02-26T09:18:26.951-08:00

Hey Devon, interesting content in your post. It is amazing how the lack of meat does give the feeling of "sluggishness". I have been experiementing it for years to get away from all meat, but have the same tendencies and eat lean beef a couple times per month.

Good stuff, thanks

Wayne Kurtz
www.utltratriguy.blogspot.com

I wanted to note in response to MHerzog (as I have...

2010-02-26T09:14:12.525-08:00

I wanted to note in response to MHerzog (as I have discussed on my fast foodie blog), I eat only local, organic, sustainably farmed meats. In fact, I just watched Food Inc and while a lot of people were disgusted and freaked out by the content, I just felt confirmed that I already am doing the right things.

Dr C- I don't eat enough organ meats and do eat cheese, a small amount.

I am also taking an iron supplement because my iron is chronically low but it really hasn't made a dent.

hey devon. that is a really interesting analysis o...

2010-02-26T06:20:51.054-08:00

hey devon. that is a really interesting analysis of your diet and performance. i have had this experience too. when i stopped being a vegetarian and started introducing meat back into my diet i dropped 1 minute from my 5K time within a few months.

do you take iron supplements? i've found that if i stop taking them consistently i start to notice a significant drop in performance and an increase in general tiredness.

hope you start to feel better more now that you have figured this out!

Very interesting. My guess is that (muscle) meat ...

2010-02-26T03:11:00.456-08:00

Very interesting. My guess is that (muscle) meat is good during hard training since it is so full of what your muscles need for recovery (branched chain amino acids, carnosine, taurine, CoQ10, etc). What about cheese or organ meats? Do you have any favorable recovery experience with those?

That picture looks delicious!

Cynthia

Here's a good video on meat: http://meat.org

2010-02-25T18:53:17.609-08:00

Here's a good video on meat: http://meat.org